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А то голову себе сломал совсем.

950

950

@chontvari,,

Изверги.

 

Сердце лежит к Weiss...

К Medus или к DAC1 Mark II/III

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Изверги.

Они в сговоре...)

Перетягивание каната))) За один конец каната тянут: первоначальный настрой, мнения коллег по профессии и "душа", за другой конец тянут: мнение общественности и жаба. Как назло, силы равны. В данной ситуации хорошо бы немного повременить с принятием решения, подольше пособирать мнения.

@Desmodrom,

А тут все как-то решилось само собой)))

950 47,7 в длину. А стойка у меня ровно 47)))))

 

Кто-то сошел с дистанции))

Места у меня мало. Так что повишу с тем, что есть пока. Не обламывает. А потом возьму и куплю какой-нибудь ЦАП)))

Хоть как-то голова убокоилась.

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Это совершенно не лишено смысла. После определенного уровня звука можно и выбирать по другим составляющим уже.

@chontvari,,

Изверги.

А тут все как-то решилось само собой)))

Кто-то сошел с дистанции))

Так что повишу с тем, что есть пока.

Вооот, на это и было рассчитано - убеждаем взять 950-й - он по какой-либо причине - обламывается, и то, что есть уже продолжает радовать дальше...))

Вот нашел приятное))) И поддерживающее мой выбор.

 

Weiss DAC1 Converter Review by Dr. Frederick J. Bashour Dufay Digital Music Leverett, MA 01054

 

Introduction

The DAC1 is a top-of-the-line digital to analog converter from Daniel Weiss En- gineering of Switzerland. The version tested accepts inputs at 44.1, 48, 88.2, and 96 kHz., and double-samples data input at the lower sample rates via DSP to one of the two higher ones, before subsequent 4x upsampling within its D/A chip. A Mk. II ver- sion will be available by May, 2002 which includes a second AES receiver for dual-wire 176.4 and 192 kHz conversion, but is otherwise identical to the review sample.

 

General Overview

The Weiss DAC1 is both simple to use and extremely flexible in interfacing pos- sibilities. There are four inputs—three on XLR connectors and one on Toslink optical— and each is selected by its own large lighted front panel pushbutton. Each of the three AES/EBU XLR inputs is actively routed to a corresponding XLR digital output, pro- ducing a „thru“ connection suitable for monitoring at multiple stages within a digital studio setup, or other recording, monitoring, or routing possibilities. Three front panel LEDs display input wordlength (1-16, 17-20, 21-24 bits).

The Weiss engineering philosophy of combining several signal reclocking schemes has produced extremely high jitter attenuation, leading the firm to boast that the DAC1 is virtually immune to jitter frequencies from fractions of a Hertz up to tens of kHz. While earlier models of the DAC1 included a clock output on one pin of a rear panel DB15 connector—enabling the unit to be set to act as a clock master—later units, as well as the DAC1Mk.II, omit this feature, as no audible improvement was said to be heard as a result of master clock operation. I was, unfortunately, unable to test this feature on my review unit, but can state without reservation that I have never heard cleaner sound from any DAC—with or without master clock mode.

Particular attention was paid to the analog output stage, designed with the aim of keeping as uncompromised an audio signal path as possible. The unit’s discrete Class A outputs present an extremely low output impedance, but never showed a bit of instability in driving various loads—including 50 meter cables with unbalanced termi- nation—in my studio. The output level can be switched between „high“ or „low“ mode, and the symmetrical circuit can swing +27dBu.

Certain pins on the aforementioned rear-panel DB15 connector can accommodate two external mono or one single stereo potentiometer for remote level control; other pins can control source selection with LED illumination. The remote level control takes place in the digital domain, and is properly dithered to avoid quantization artifacts.

The DAC1 runs quite warm—especially on the right side, and should be ventilated adequately .

 

In Use

First the bad news, then the good news. When I received the unit, I didn’t think I liked its sound at all. Two months later, I purchased the review sample! What hap- pened during that time period involved a certain amount of „ear-training“ on my part, and a re-evaluation of my monitoring system.

I have owned an extremely expensive so-called state-of-the-art audiophile DAC since 1988—a Wadia 2000—whose hardware, firmware, and power supply had been continually updated by Wadia throughout the late nineties. As I received newer pro audio converters for review during the past several years, I always compared them to my Wadia reference unit and, ultimately, found them all lacking in one or more subjec- tive parameters. The dCS 954 was the first unit I tested which gave my Wadia serious competition but, for various reasons, I passed on its possible purchase.

When the DAC1 arrived for review, I was about to do an interesting „interna- tional violin band“ session for the United Nations here in Studio Dufay, so I quickly patched it in and, during and after that three-day session, alternated between it and the Wadia. The latter sounded warm and euphonically pleasant, while the Weiss sounded bright, scratchy, and a bit „phasey.“ I impulsively pronounced it inferior, and went on to other matters.

A month later—the morning after the first day of a week-long 96 kHz multi-track session I was recording for Dorian—I was playing my rough mixes at the studio and was a bit underwhelmed by the sound from the Wadia. I idly flipped to the DAC1’s position on my monitor selector, and my mouth fell wide open! Here was the sound I had heard live on my Stax headphones and Dynaudio BM6As the evening before. I switched back and forth between Wadia and Weiss and slowly realized that the Weiss’ sound was clear, warm, crisp, true, airy, open, relaxed—all the proper audiophile jar- gon, while the Wadia’s was closed, murky, boomy and veiled.

What was going on here? I continued to use the Weiss DAC1 as reference DAC during that session (at which I was recording the early music „super-group,“ Fortune’s Wheel, at Mount Holyoke College’s Abbey Chapel), even to the extent of bringing it along to substitute for the DAC section of the Apogee PSX-100 I was using as my „rough mix“ A/D-D/A converter. Each time I listened to the Weiss unit, I liked it more.

A few weeks later, after I had finished the first edit of that project, I had time to revisit my U.N. violin recording. It had been a „quick and dirty“ session, with record- ing, mixing, and editing happening simultaneously. I went back to my original multi- track master and listened to each stereo pair. Yikes! One of them did sound screechy and, since my quick direct-to-analog mix did not incorporate any of the delay compen- sation I always add when I have the luxury of mixing „after the fact“ within software, a certain phasiness was definitely present.

 

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To make a long story short, I learned that the Weiss DAC1 is a true monitoring tool. If something sounds wrong through it, it is wrong! And if a source sounds really nice, then one should pat oneself on the back. I had apparently been monitoring for many years with a DAC which tended to „improve“ (via sins of omission) many of its sources and which—in the final analysis—had been lying to me.

 

Conclusion

My experience with the Weiss DAC1 has taught me many valuable lessons about audio and auditory perception. As I embark on my latest recording system upgrade (to Merging Technologies’ Pyramix and 192 kHz multi-track), I am extremely grateful that I have finally found a stereo monitoring DAC which will „tell it like it is“ while still re- warding me with a „nice“ sound—as long as I’ve done the footwork and presented it with a good recording in the first place. Thus, the ball is back in my court!

Dr. Fred Bashour holds a Yale Ph.D. in Music Theory, and currently performs as a jazz pianist and church organist, in addition to working as a classical music producer/engineer and consult- ant to university music libraries on the digital storage of course listening materials. During the past 25 years, he has received credits on hundreds of recordings released on over a dozen labels. He is also a contributor to Audio Media.

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Не смотря на не идеальную запись в относительной величине - очень хороший трек для проверки локализации и создания образа железа.

 

http://dropmefiles.com/eWCw3

Чел. пишет на сундуке:"А какой firewire кабель используете? Были ли опыт сравнения разных? У меня есть int202, но в моей системе он проигрывает berkeley. Правда я не использовал внешнее питание и кабель был относительно не дорогой oyaid"

http://soundex.ru/forum/index.php?/topic/21782-usb-конвертеры-для-вывода-звука-с-компьютера/&page=142#comment-1783932

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Это про што?

А так у меня три кабеля.

Oyad, Furutech и AQDiamond.

Разница есть. Но менее заметная, чем при замене кабеля USB.

Если вы об этом.

А внешнее питание это про int202/203?

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Всех с праздниками и с теплом!!!!

С праздниками, Миша!!!

В ожидании Weiss DAC1 MKIII выставляю на продажу Weiss DAC2.

 

Из опций в дак1 будет fw/thb и юсб дсд. Так же обсуждаю добавление параллельного rca к штатному xlr.

 

Михаил поздравляю!!! Данный "выстрел" в любом случае будет в десятку!

выставляю на продажу Weiss DAC2.

DAC конечно хороший, но за 950 тысяч??

 

Что Вас удивило в USD15k?

Лишний нолик наверное, а Вы что подумали?

Что Вас удивило в USD15k?

Лишний нолик наверное, а Вы что подумали?

Конечно не так. ))) в автобусе где-то по Греции еду. Трясет. Лишний нолик натрясся))))

Изменено 4 мая, 20179 г пользователем prod67

Лишний нолик натрясся))))

А без нолика - совсем уж, даром...))

А я подумал - какие же у Михаила вкусы . Цап стоимостью больше 950 т не нравится . Хочет лучше .

@Торопыжка,

Как оаз очень нравится. Просто на шаг дальше шагаю. Но в эту же сторону.

Хороший цап по хорошей цене

Прекрасно , значит мне правильно захотелось Вейс купить .