Продвинутые 7505 сообщений ГородМосква Занятие:Архивист АУДИО ТРАКТ Отправлено Сегодня, 13:08 Dima Rodionov, Ну не только за эти плюшки. В предшествующих L3000 еще и звук выдающийся. Конечно кто может себе такое позволить. А в этой, видимо, больше коммерции и попытке выплыть на старых лаврах. Впрочем, может и тракт какой нужно особый.
cheshirskicat, Даже так. Спасибо. Я было подумал, что скорее обычная неприязнь типичного звука японцев. На этой площадке это очень часто встречалось. Скорее всего действительно выпустили "сюрприз". Печально.
Удивляет как люди делают глобальные выводы на основе одного отзыва. Один негативный отзыв можно найти на абсолютно любые наушники, будь то Орфеи, новые или старые, или Abyss с Hifiman Susvara на пару. Всегда есть фактор вкуса прослушивающего, его предпочтений и насколько АЧХ и конструкция конкретных наушников "ложится" на слух конкретного человека.
К слову, на те же L3000 навалом разгромных отзывов, к примеру, два знаменитых форумчанина на head-fi MuppetFace
просто в пух и прах их разносили в свое время. Вплоть то того, что люблю на них смотреть, но предпочитаю слушать Sennheiser HD600
К примеру, на head-fi есть сравнение L5000 c Stax 9 и 7 с Карбоном и по мнению автора они не хуже, при том что закрытые.
Well, I have the KGSSHV Carbon + SR-009 and the SR-007mk1. If that's top-end, then I can certainly give my early thoughts.
This is with the same front end (high end analog), and with a balanced beta22 + ATH-L5000. While the two Stax headphones are quite different, for simplicity's sake, I'll lump them together, and attempt to do an amalgam of their performance versus the ATH-L5000. I have volume matched in each case using a loudness meter I often use for this sort of thing.
In this case, I'm going to listen to some of my favorite strings, piano, brass, and female vocal music...
The cello sounds more weighty on the ATH-L5000, I can hear the wood, and its reverberations within the instrument, as though I can feel the vibrations complexity, as it vibrates. The electrostatics show me a bit more of the bow against the strings. I can hear their metal, and feel as though I can picture the hair touching them. The ATH-L5000 really sound beautiful here. I'm smitten.
The choir sounds further on the electrostatics, and I feel like I can make the individual voices out a bit better. I feel that the separation is fascinating, and I find myself a bit lost in it. The ATH-L5000 shows me a wider sound stage, and I feel like somehow I'm hearing the intended harmonization better. Fascinatingly, I am hearing vocal reverberations I did not hear before. Switching back to the SR-009, I can hear them, but I'm somewhat straining. With the electrostatics, I can hear that clearly I am in a large room, and the acoustics with that, but I feel that with the ATH-L5000 I am hearing something beyond just echo. Maybe, more of a nuanced sound of collective voices interacting with the structure somehow?
I'm listening to some brass instruments, the electrostatics sound really good! They sound grand, and I can hear the metal really well. The upper registers are airy, and not harsh. They flow very well from the instruments. Switching to the ATH-L5000 the brass sounds a bit less airy, and soaring. Fascinatingly, I hear "wetness" in the brass though. Sort that reedy-wetness instead of just the sound of the air escaping the bell. I'm sort of fascinated by it. Switching back to the electrostatics, I can hear similar sounds, but I find myself sort of listening to the airy, brassy, "bigness" of the performance.
The piano sounds wonderful on both. I grew up listening to my father play his grand piano, so it's a sound I know very very well. It's a hard memory, that I don't think will ever leave me save for brain injury, or illness. The ATH-L5000 make me think of my father playing... When you're in a room with a grand piano, with tiled floors, and lots of wall dampening, one thing you will really hear is the reverberation of notes within the piano itself. The piano sort of "breathes" the notes. They sound less acute, abrupt, and less like a hammer striking metal, but instead you hear the felt of the hammer striking a string, and then the piano allows the note to escape after it interacts with the structure of the instrument. With the electrostatics, I hear pure, notes. They're beautiful, airy, emotional. I can hear the way the hammer strikes. What I just do not hear is the weight of the strike, and the impact that violence had on the piano itself. For some reason, I hear that with the ATH-L5000. It makes me really happy.
Listening to Wong Faye... she always sounds gentle, and feminine. I feel somehow that I am hearing her voice, and all of its intricacies with the electrostatics. She sounds intimate, and enjoy her voice immensely. Instruments sound very separate from her voice. The ATH-L5000 somehow have more separation than the electrostatics. Her voice sounds a bit less gentle, maybe slightly breathy, a bit more human-in-the-room. It's difficult to say which is more accurate to her voice. The soundstage seems wider on the ATH-L5000, but deeper on the electrostatics. I feel like both setups are giving me the whole truth when combined.
Sort of rambling, but I was making notes while listening. I'm not sure if this will help, or just confuse! Another aspect is that I think the Carbon is just about ideal for the two Stax. I'm not convinced that the beta22 is doing everything my not-broken-in ATH-L5000 can do!